featuring: Joe Alexander + Richard Arrowsmith + Mike Clelland + Loren Coleman + Anadæ Quenyan Effro + FraterX + Freeman + Mark Golding + Jasun Horusly + Victoria Hunt + John Kale + William Klaus + Mark LeClair + Paul Levy + Trish & Rob MacGregor + Nexus of Sync + Scott Onstott + Anthony Peake + Robert Perry + David Plate + Riotfish + Alex Robinson + Ezra Sandzer-Bell + Noah Sherrill + Dr. Kirby Surprise + Frank Zero
Tuesday, November 27, 2012
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featuring: Joe Alexander + Richard Arrowsmith + Mike Clelland + Loren Coleman + Anadæ Quenyan Effro + FraterX + Freeman + Mark Golding + Jasun Horusly + Victoria Hunt + John Kale + William Klaus + Mark LeClair + Paul Levy + Trish & Rob MacGregor + Nexus of Sync + Scott Onstott + Anthony Peake + Robert Perry + David Plate + Riotfish + Alex Robinson + Ezra Sandzer-Bell + Noah Sherrill + Dr. Kirby Surprise + Frank Zero
"Reading Frank Zero's chapter on Saturday morning cartoons and how bizarre they could be - "Saturday Morning Vision Quest" - I was reading about a very heavy 1973 episode of Star Trek: The Animated Series. The episode, "The Magicks of Megas-tu," involved the Enterprise crew engaging in ritual magic, a Luciferian entity called "Lucien" and the crew being transported to 1691 Salem, Massachusetts (Salem, being a name that comes up again and again for me) where they face trial for humanity's failings and attacks on witch-like beings. Anyway, while reading that, I became entranced by a song playing on TV. Turned out to be a song by Michael De Salem, a man who is fascinated with that New England town and its mysterious history, so much so that he incorporated Salem into his name."- Book Review on reddit by Andrew W Griffin
featuring: Joe Alexander + Richard Arrowsmith + Mike Clelland + Loren Coleman + Anadæ Quenyan Effro + FraterX + Freeman + Mark Golding + Jasun Horusly + Victoria Hunt + John Kale + William Klaus + Mark LeClair + Paul Levy + Trish & Rob MacGregor + Nexus of Sync + Scott Onstott + Anthony Peake + Robert Perry + David Plate + Riotfish + Alex Robinson + Ezra Sandzer-Bell + Noah Sherrill + Dr. Kirby Surprise + Frank Zero
David McDermott
David McDermott is the writer of great action TV shows such as X:Men, Transformers, Ben 10, Power Rangers, and many more.
1. Right off the bat, one of the themes I’ve been exploring in my work is assimilative alien diseases and Apocalypse using the geomancy based ley line energy of sacred sites. And with two episodes; Phalanx Covenant and the Fifth Horseman you managed to cover all of these areas. What inspired these stories? Was it just the comics?
The Phalanx Covenant was definitely based heavily on the comics. That was one of the things that made the series so memorable, I think: The majority of the episodes were taken directly from the comic book storylines, cherry-picking the most interesting beats from the entire history of the X-Men.
I was a big New Mutants fan, and I'd always thought of the Technarchy and the Phalanx as being connected, although I'm not sure that was ever really spelled out in the books. We needed a self-contained origin for the animated version, and I thought bringing Warlock in gave the story a focus... and let me write one of my favorite characters!
Hidden Agendas was another matter. It was part of the final series order, so the intent was to break some new ground with the last episodes and goes places the books hadn't yet. There were aspects of the stories that came from various beats in the books, but as a whole, they were intended to be original tales for animation.
As for ley lines and sacred sites, I've always been fascinated by the paranormal, and by the "lost knowledge" often ascribed to "pagan" cultures. I like to base my writing on the real world as much as possible, whether it's scientific principles or metaphysical belief systems. It adds a certain resonance and "ring of truth" to things.
Ley lines and geomancy tend to come up a lot, I think because the concept of energy flowing through secret channels in the Earth appeals to us on a primal level. It makes sense to us. After all, water flows in channels, and in ocean currents. Our blood flows, carrying energy throughout the body. Electricity, too--although our understanding of that phenomenon came later (Unless the "Baghdad Battery" really IS a battery!)
Ley lines also provide motivation for a truly LARGE-SCALE evil plan, spanning multiple locations. It's a REALLY useful plot device, whenever magical or mysterious forces are in play.
To be clear, I'm pretty skeptical in real life, and I've probably gotten more skeptical as I've gotten older. The point isn't that I believe these things; it's that SOMEONE does, or did, at some point in the past. For fantastic fiction, that's a very solid jumping-off point.
2. What is Ben 10 really about?
I guess if you take in the whole franchise, from the original series through Alien Force and Ultimate Alien, it's really about growing up. Ben's transformations are a sort of metaphor for the "powers" that we gain as we grow older, and the manner in which we integrate those powers into our developing sense of self.
At first, Ben had limited power--ten different forms, with a strict time limit--but he had to learn to use those powers in a socially acceptable way, to help people rather than for personal gain. Although he and Gwen weren't under parental control, Grandpa Max was a constant presence, giving guidance and bailing him out if he got in over his head.
In Alien Force, Ben's powers are expanded, but he doesn't have adult supervision any more. He has to make a lot more choices and decisions for himself, and deal with the consequences of his actions. Gwen and Kevin sort of represent the two extremes Ben could choose to follow: A sort of carefree hedonism vs. an almost monastic adherence to proper behavior. Ben usually finds a middle path... annoying both of them.
In Ultimate Alien, Ben's powers increase again, and now, they're revealed to the world. He has to consider how his actions will affect people beyond his immediate circle, as well as how others perceive--or misperceive--those actions. The individual's relationship to society is explored, as well as the nature of fame and the attendant loss of privacy.
I'm not allowed to reveal much about the upcoming fourth series, but I CAN say that Ben will be given increased responsibilities within a more rigid social structure, and will find his own unique response. It's also going to be even funnier, with even bigger explosions. ;>)
3. In Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape the Professor character explains step by step methodology for creating a trauma based mind control victim. This could not have been done without due research into the phenomenon and the programming techniques. Canadian Doctor Ewan Cameron was furthering Mengele’s work on unwitting military personnel and C.I.A. agents (some of them also unaware of the experiments ) Not remembering this kind of detail in the comics when Hama was writing it, how did your team manage to come so close to a real phenomenon and why?
Recap of Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape below
Recap of Weapon X, Lies, and Videotape below
We did a LOT of research for Weapon X, Lies and Videotape, but it was almost exclusively from the comics. I remember there was a fantastic article in Wizard at that time (Sorry, I don't have the issue) which listed every canonical moment in Wolverine's backstory up to that point, so we hunted down all those issues and pored over them, then boiled the whole thing down to 21 minutes of animation... which was a fairly complex task.
Any gaps in the book's explanation of events we filled in with psychological principles we had picked up over the years. My writing partner (Steven Melching) and I had both taken a few neuroscience classes in college. I think ALL writers are interested in psychology to some degree or other. After all, it's essential to understanding character motivation and interaction.
We took the events described in the comics and mixed in what we knew about interrogation techniques, programs like MK Ultra, the Stanford prison experiments, and movies like The Manchurian Candidate, and the result is what you see in the episode. I think an awful lot of it was actually there in the original comics, if you put it all together. Anything we did was just a logical outgrowth of that.
“The Project was a U.S. government operation developed to take volunteers and transform them into killers by programming their minds through visual and drug induced suggestion. Typhoid Mary and a man named Roberts are two of the known volunteers. The Project was created by a man named Trevor who has since been killed by Wolverine " -Wolverine Encyclopedia Volume 2
Weapon X
There seem to be some unignorable similarities between the accounts of "real super soldiers” and those in a particular region of the Marvel Comics Universe.
There seem to be some unignorable similarities between the accounts of "real super soldiers” and those in a particular region of the Marvel Comics Universe.
When data came forward about Canadian Doctor Ewan Cameron furthering the work of Mengele's, it became hard to not see a tie to the fictional Weapon X Program. The Weapon X Program was headed by a mysterious “Professor” who has quite an uncanny resemblance to Cameron. The other two individuals involved were Doctor Abraham Cornelius and NASA employee Carol Hines. As if that weren't enough, with all the replacing and creating memories and traumatic splits in the mind and what not; the symptoms and experiences of Wolverine and other test subjects in that program read exactly like Duncan Finaon's interviews. or Fritz Springmeir's Books. Who was reading whom in the 90s? And how did they know about the Canadian experiments? The story gets stranger when we see that GI Joe creator Larry Hama wrote many of the Weapon X issues in the 90s...
“Under the name Logan, Wolverine had already been working for the CIA alongside fellow agents like Victor Creed, the future Sabertooth. The CIA established Project X in order to convert men into "super soldiers" with unusual abilities. The project facilities were set up in Windsor, Canada, through a secret agreement with the Canadian government. "
-X-Men: The Ultimate Guide
-X-Men: The Ultimate Guide
Season 3 Episode 19 Weapon X, Lies and Videotape
Wolverine travels back to Canada to investigate his past. This is similar to the factual tale of Doctor Ewan Cameron and his furthering of Mengele's mind control sciences in Canada. In this episode the Canadian Professor seems to list the steps of his work as if they are simply chapters in a Fritz Springmeier book. The professor would later have his hand cut off by Wolverine who would track him down and find him hiding in the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Pest Control Division. He was killed by Silver Fox in Ontario years after.
So Wolverine has dreams about Sabertooth emasculating him by threatening his woman (Silver Fox),
“After all we've been through”
This seems to be a reference to what Monarch researchers would consider bonding
Xavier tries to probe his mind and screams in agony
" Strange tortuous memories pouring out as if a damn had burst”
" Strange tortuous memories pouring out as if a damn had burst”
Then Wolverine has a super soldier freak out on his own friends.
“Hank, I found this, inside an envelope postmarked two weeks ago, there was no return address. I've seen this image in his mind; this must be a clue to his delusions. Perhaps it triggered him”
"Super Soldier" Duncan Finoan explains these same paranoid delusions and triggers that cause him to board himself up in his house with all the lights off and his guns out.
“You just went in a dream state again what did you see?”
-Beast
" Me Being trained to take people out” - Wolvie
-Beast
" Me Being trained to take people out” - Wolvie
“I assume you've been having headaches and nightmares, like Maverick and I, they did something to our minds when we worked here, something code named Project Talos”
“Take a closer look Logan; you remember these places don't you “Silver Fox
“Created Memories, but to what purpose?” - Beast
Wolverine has memories contradicting the movie sets of his memories he is standing in.
Sabertooth falls to the ground weeping remembering his dad abusing him for being different.
“Why does somebody want us to remember this, like its all bad”
According to the literature on mind control. It has been found most effective to traumatize (abuse) a person physically at ages three and five, later these people would be bonded with other children and giving moments of life that seemed perfect/supportive
As Wolverine approaches Silver Fox lovingly, she wards him off
“The cabin, was that a lie too?” - Wolverine
“Despite initial setbacks all subjects are responding to the trauma conditioning, we will be able to reintegrate them into society with no memory that we conditioned them. When they're covert services are needed they will attack their target and then remember nothing, the key is to reach the subconscious mind, the subjects must be repeatedly exposed to a simulation of extreme emotional trauma. While using psychoactive chemicals, we flood the subjects mind with false memories. Overwhelming them, breaking them down making them controllable. Seems to work best when based on actual life events. " -Doctor
“Aldo Ferro was a crime lord...who once owned half the land /biz in Cuba. During the Weapon X experiment, Ferro used his telepathic powers to implant false memories in Wolverine and other victims. Ferro linked the false memories to the pain receptors of his victims not only because it was more effective, but because he enjoyed inflicting pain on others. “-Wolverine Encyclopedia Vol.2
They show the four subjects back to back as if to hint at twinning.
It is made obvious that this set is a movie studio with different rooms to fabricate different childhood memories...
Talos is responsible for their reprogramming, an evil Borg looking archon type
"Talosians are humanoids who inhabit the planet Talos IV. Talosians have large crania and are telepathic. However, their advancements made them utterly unemotional, so they gathered a menagerie of more primitive species so they could observe emotional interaction. They were no longer capable of living on their planet's surface and needed to use other species to reproduce in sufficient numbers. The Talosians appear in the original Star Trek pilot, "The Cage", and capture Captain Pike. They reappear in "The Menagerie".
( BTW, as for Talos, I'm afraid he doesn't have anything to do with the Talosians. In the comics, the robot guarding the lab was called Shiva, after the Hindu deity. However, the networks generally frown on naming cartoon villains after actively-worshipped deities, so the name was changed to something more mythical: In Greek legend, Talos was a bronze giant who guarded Europa on the island Crete.-DM
…all that blabber from Wikipedia just means that the Talosians were the Watchers and here we have a Watcher that is trying to reprogram Monarch/Military mind control victims...very odd
Sabertooth uses the creative visualization against the shape shifting watcher and pretends he is fighting his father.
Maverick shape shifts as well.
Larry Hama
Larry Hama is a writer ,editor,actor,and artist; certainly a hero who need no introduction. He turned GI Joe into an " American Enterprise " created Bucky O Hare, Nth Man, wrote and illustrated countless comics, and has acted in random theater,TV,and movies ( including M.A.S.H. and the Warriors.
1. Did you ever research mind control, specifically military applications, and include this in your work? (...In aspects of your Wolverine comics and GiJoe cartoons. In speaking with X-Men writer David McDermott on this topic, he confirmed a healthy interest in the subject matter while writing mind control themed episodes,ones involving Wolvie, that aren't far from your Wolvie comics... )
Never researched that stuff at all. Just made it up. I got the idea for the ultra-low frequency transmitter in RAH #2 from an article in the NY Times Magazine. I also had a subscription to
LANCET for many years, that may have influenced me in some way.
2. Between Conan, GiJoe, Bucky O' Hare, Mario, and a host of other Sunbow and non Sunbow shows from the same era, the theme of underground reptilians wreaking havoc on a surface populace, reptilian human hybridization,or something quite like it, seems to predominate. Do you know why?
Have no idea. I'm a big fan of Heinrich Kley-- that's where the toads come from.
3. When you were making all this wonderful entertainment for us to grow up fascinated by, did it dawn on you that you were kind of training kids to save the world, in a world where entertainment and perhaps elements of culture, were planning on collapsing? Most scenarios from GiJoe episodes seem almost pre-cog or conspiracy related... If Jack Kirby were alive, I'd ask him the same thing with his work, but...was this intentional?
I didn't deliberately set out to do anything like that. My main concern was to do stories about characters who had a moral and ethical center. I was a bit dismayed by whole anti-hero thing going on at the time, and the incredible self-involvement of the mutants.
4. I've heard strange things about " Hasbro" secrets... Can you tell me anything about this? Would it coincide with David Wise talking about the network forcing his hand in writing decisions based on false flag alien invasions? ( TMNT Season 9 )
I didn't realize that there were any secrets left. For the most part Hasbro let me pretty much do what I pleased on the comic (with minor exceptions) and of course, I never had anything to do with the tv animated shows. If I knew any secrets, I wouldn't tell. The last thing they told me when I got out of the army was "everything you can't forget, deny."
5. Does Zartan in some ways represent Black Water? Or perhaps a Manchurian type super soldier? ( with his MPD and all...)What are some of the fears about the military industrial complex that you personally believe have come true?
I believe Eisenhower was absolutely right about the military industrial complex. Hence "Komplex" in Bucky O'Hare. Zartan does not represent Blackwater. Zartan has less of a hidden agenda than Destro.
6. Who does Destro represent?
There are no hidden meanings and the characters don't stand for anything other than who they are. If you play the GI Joe theme backwards, it doesn't tell you a secret message about Satan. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds is not about LSD. NOBODY so far has glommed onto ANY of the secret stuff I imbedded in the GI Joe stories. Nth Man is the opposite. Every character in that series is based on a real person.
Wonderful and VERY funny interview about Zartan
Listing of Hama's work at JoeGuide.com
Bio at the GI Joe wiki
David Wise
David Wise is a cartoon mastermind injecting the most interesting and well thought out concepts into the genre. His work starts with Star Trek animated, he is the reason and the core of the Ninja Turtles cartoons, and worked on many other series such as Wildcats, He-Man, Transformers, Batman, etc...
1. Let’s start at the beginning, you wrote “How Sharp a Serpent’s Tooth “for the animated Star Trek series when you were sixteen. Can you explain that? What were you reading at the time? That episode is prolific. It’s one of my top ten “Saturday Morning Mystery Cult “episodes! (Themes of which were represented in a similar way in Tarzan the cartoon)
I was reading all sorts of things at the time (as I always am). The idea for "Serpent's Tooth" came from Erich Von Daniken's book "Chariots of the Gods?” a book I found highly amusing though I don't agree with his theories (many of which have since been debunked.)
"This is not a question in there but I'm gonna mention this anyway, cause I have you fans here...I did not come up with Carter, Carter was CBS' idea, Dregg was created by somebody else and (inaudible) that's a whole nother story. I was just TOLD TO DO IT! - David Wise Interview at VIMEO
2. You mention in an interview that Dregg and Carter were demands of the network at the time, can you explain this?
Dregg was created by another writer who the network wanted running the show at the start of the 9th season. I very quickly wound up replacing him, but the network wanted Dregg to stay. The Carter character was created by a network exec, who wanted a "new character to freshen up the show."
3. Also why is the similarly sounding “Dregit“in Invasion America voiced by Tony Jay as well?
Probably because Tony Jay was a highly talented voice actor. I never had anything to do with any TMNT voice casting, and I had absolutely involvement with the show "Invasion America" whatsoever, so I can't really answer that question.
4. Why is the Federal Reserve in the same city as the WTC buildings?
I have no idea what you're referring to here. The TMNT series was never "officially" set in a real city.
5. Why is Carter identical to a rapper who claims “I am not a human being “who is named Carter a.k.a Lil Wayne.
Because lots of people are named Carter. Lil Wayne's debut album was released 5 years after the Carter episodes aired. Also, the TMNT Carter IS a human being!
6. Are the aliens secretly after “monatomic gold “? Please elaborate on any detail you can in this area.
Are you talking about "Invasion America" here? I had nothing to do with that show. If you're talking about Dregg, the answer is no, and I'd never even heard the term until your question.
7. Why were all of the Sunbow shows point blank obsessed with the Temple of Set, mind control (often psychotronic) and false flag alien invasions?
They were obsessed with the Temple of Set? Not mine. Whatever it is, it doesn't appear, nor is it mentioned in any of my scripts. As for mind control and "false flag alien invasions," these are certainly useful plot devices and are used in many, many action-adventure/SF shows, not just Sunbow's.
8. Why do so many of these shows seem to have knowledge of contemporary conspiracy or whistle blower type data before the researchers do?
I don't think you can point to any of my scripts as having these qualities! I can't answer for anyone else.
9. Was the Eye of Braxus inspired by P.K.D.’s Valis experience?
No. I had not read VALIS at the time I wrote the script. (read it around 2000.)
10. So much of your work is about trans dimensional doorways or assimilative archon/alien type deities who possess the body or appear as spiritual beings? Does this originate from any nonfiction interest you may have?
No. If anything, it stems from my interest in science fiction.
11. "I warped your childhood beyond all recognition." As true as this is, and I want to thank you for it either way, without thinking twice; can you explain what this means to you?
It's sort of a joke. If I helped make any kids out there grow up less "normal," then my work has been successful!
12. Was that your idea to put Thoth Street in Batman the Animated series?
No. If I called out every detail (like street signs) my scripts would be very long. It was probably put in by a producer or story editor as a joke: Thoth Khepera was a character in the series, though I never wrote for her. More likely, those, it was probably put in my background by a painter in Japan or Korea (wherever the animation was done) who didn't know what the word meant.
13. Any new projects on the way?
Yes, but I don't talk about my works in progress.
14. Have you ever consciously incorporated symbolism from the mystery cults or Occult into any of your shows? I.e. Jem having 7 pointed star earrings for example
LoL.
15. Was there a general understanding that the Transformers, Ninja Turtles, and many of the other aesthetic archetypes featured in the animated works you were a part of; suppose to directly reflect subtle truths that we were in fact- a race seeded by extraterrestrials via genetic manipulation, and/or to display those truths in a way that was palatable to children? In other words did the success of some of these shows pivot upon the concept that conditioning children to a potential reality ascertaining their true origin on Earth- part of a conscious marketing agenda on your part, or just a happy accident?
The answer to all of the above is: No.
Jack Kirby
Blog Series:
G.I.JOE: Metaphor and Warning in the Military Industrial Complex, and Examples of Foreign Policy AND (presented with a thorough index of) Popular American Conspiracy Theories
Part 2
Part 3
Jack Kirby worked on concepts for many cartoons as well as the countless ones that have utilized his rich mythology or been stylized as a tribute to him.
Links to episodes or clips embedded related to the King
Centurions:
Chuck Norris and the Karate Kommandoes:
Rambo:
Lazer Tag Academy:
Mister T
Thundarr the Barbarian
Space Stars
Worlds Greatest Super Friends
The New Shmoo
Batman Brave and Bold :
Ninja Turtles:
featuring Jack Kirby: The King: Part 1 Part 2
Minoriteam has one episode Tribe and Prejudice which stars Kirby, whom the show itself is obviously based off of.
10 Amazing Jack Kirby Designs That Need To Happen
other links:- Kirby at imdb
- Spectacular Space God Speculations
- The King and the Worst indie film about Jack in WW2
Defenders of the Earth
Defenders of the Earth-
Phantom, Flash Gordon, Mandrake the Magician, and fight Ming the Merciless (the original Flash Gordon villain) Ming is an odd pre-reptilian archetype seen in Iron Man in the form of Mandarin.
The Mind Warriors Part 1 and 2
A two part series very close to the GIJOE episode “Operation Mind Menace” where people are trained to use their occult powers for evil, relating heavily to people who say they were actually put through this kind of training. An alien nuclear warhead left over from an ancient war drifts in space toward Earth.
Meanwhile Kashin, who resembles Tommy the psychic from Mind Menace, dreams up VR scenarios for the Defenders team to train(this is identical to the Danger Room in X-Men). The warhead lands in South America and the Defenders are shot down by Ming’s forces in the same area. Kashin dreams up a haunted house for the Defenders to fight in, while Ming takes hold of the simulation. Characters that appear to be the Skeleton Warriors make a cameo in one graveyard scene where Kashin himself is the victim.
The Starboy written by David Wise
A UFO crashes close to Kashin, containing a strange boy with a star on his head. Another ship containing strange creatures with guns lands to search for the “Starboy”.
Ten Million years ago a galactic civil war ended in the burial of an evil robot known as the annihilator. A tall gray alien gave Ming the secret to awaken the Annihilator in exchange for the safety of his planet.
Theme
By Theme
Ancient Egypt
Conan
Iron Man cartoon
Mighty Max
GiJoe
3
Extreme Ghostbusters : Sphinx
Spider Woman : Pyramids of Terror
2
Mummies Alive: the Gift of Geb
The Mummy : The Reckoning
Kidd Video: Pink Sphinx
or Pink Panther : Pink Sphinx
He Man Temple of the Sun
Hijacked NASA shuttles
Spider Man ( 90s )
Spider Man and his Amazing Friends
Spider Woman
Spider Man Unlimited ( featuring a John Carter )
( Add amazing Spider Man and Spider lady or whatever )
Inspector Gadget
False Flag Aliens ( who are usually really into the Federal Reserve )
Robotech
Inspector Gadget
Action Man
New Turtles
Old Turtles
GiJoe
note: most of these shows have actual alien or trans-dimensional characters and some bleed into these episodes. However, I am noting here, the ones that show a " false flag " alien invasion like Von Braun supposedly tried to warn us of...
Ancient Aliens Part 1
Tarzan and the Space God
the above plot is identical to the Star Trek animated episode
Tarzan and the Strange Visitors
RFID, and or technocratic futures
Spider Man Unlimited
Episode 13
Other:
Superman
X-Men
Weapon X, Lies and Videotape
Beyond Good and Evil ( Apocalypse 5000 year rule, time travel, etc... )
Writers, Artist, Producer, Voice Actors
Collected fb group post on Michael Reaves
Collected fb group post on Tony Jay
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